Comments on: Do Not Take The Law Into Your Own Hands http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/ My personal views on Malaysia and the world around me Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:12:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: UNKNOW http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-14329 UNKNOW Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:47:25 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-14329 if the snatch died on the spot and the case will be classified as murder. criminal like snatch theft or robber are getting more and more these days. No one has the right to take one another live if public caught them they should break their back-bone so that they can't snatch people bag in future. Advantages: 1. No blood. 2. A powerful kick will do. 3. Still alive. Lastly it teach the snatch theft to learn a lesson as they are paralyse for life and that when they are lying on a bed they will regret of what they have done. if the snatch died on the spot and the case will be classified as murder.

criminal like snatch theft or robber are getting more and more these days.

No one has the right to take one another live

if public caught them they should break their back-bone so that they can’t snatch people bag in future.

Advantages:
1. No blood.
2. A powerful kick will do.
3. Still alive.

Lastly it teach the snatch theft to learn a lesson as they are paralyse for life and that when they are lying on a bed they will regret of what they have done.

]]> By: justice?where? http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-5803 justice?where? Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:52:50 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-5803 I know this is s dead thread, but I live in Los Angeles Rate of conviction for Murder >34%(One in three murders walk!) Rate of Rape >27% Assualt>20% Drugs>78%(capitalism at its best..The system can put them away or take their money(not both). If you suck at dealing you go away(min 20 years..did I mention murder was only 7)..If you are good at it they take your money, and they let you go.... To make more money) So if you get beat or raped you have about a 30%(about 1 in 3) chance of getting Justice. So make your own If you don't report the rape/assualt then its really! hard to tie you to the criminal. Chance of getting caught>3%. On the VERY small chance of you getting arrested, and convicted, and then sentenced to do time. Well do get to worried. First time offenders in California(do to prison overcrowding) normally do less then 40 percent of the time they are given(1st degre murder 7yrs on Average). Time for good behavior 9-18 months off. On the slim chance you get caught for killing your Rapist or person(s) that assualted you...Less the 18 months. Figure 8-9 in county for the trial. 2-4 in Adm Seg. Sp you will only do 4-8 months in a low level(first timers) White collar "prison"(also know as club meds..because the offer Tennis, cable TV etc.). Ways of improving your chances of not getting caught. Watch all those "true" case studies on the Discovery type channels(hell watch CSI)....one other thing don't write these type of things(URL's are tracable)..unless you have already gotten away with it. The Police dont care about "criminals" getting justice. Hell they barley care about regualr people getting it. Learn to double(or triple) tap. Buy a throw away. Wear gloves, and a hat. Sun glasses in the daytime. Maybe even a wig(although most make people stand out more because they look so odd). Throw all you clothing away(used on that day), and not near your house or work etc. Never, NEVER, NEVER!!! talk about it with anyone. Sleep soundly. I know this is s dead thread, but
I live in Los Angeles
Rate of conviction for Murder >34%(One in three murders walk!)
Rate of Rape >27%
Assualt>20%
Drugs>78%(capitalism at its best..The system can put them away or take their money(not both). If you suck at dealing you go away(min 20 years..did I mention murder was only 7)..If you are good at it they take your money, and they let you go…. To make more money)
So if you get beat or raped you have about a 30%(about 1 in 3) chance of getting Justice.
So make your own
If you don’t report the rape/assualt then its really! hard to tie you to the criminal. Chance of getting caught>3%. On the VERY small chance of you getting arrested, and convicted, and then sentenced to do time. Well do get to worried. First time offenders in California(do to prison overcrowding) normally do less then 40 percent of the time they are given(1st degre murder 7yrs on Average). Time for good behavior 9-18 months off. On the slim chance you get caught for killing your Rapist or person(s) that assualted you…Less the 18 months. Figure 8-9 in county for the trial. 2-4 in Adm Seg. Sp you will only do 4-8 months in a low level(first timers) White collar “prison”(also know as club meds..because the offer Tennis, cable TV etc.).
Ways of improving your chances of not getting caught. Watch all those “true” case studies on the Discovery type channels(hell watch CSI)….one other thing don’t write these type of things(URL’s are tracable)..unless you have already gotten away with it. The Police dont care about “criminals” getting justice. Hell they barley care about regualr people getting it.
Learn to double(or triple) tap. Buy a throw away. Wear gloves, and a hat. Sun glasses in the daytime. Maybe even a wig(although most make people stand out more because they look so odd). Throw all you clothing away(used on that day), and not near your house or work etc.
Never, NEVER, NEVER!!! talk about it with anyone. Sleep soundly.

]]> By: Chan Kelwin http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-20 Chan Kelwin Wed, 23 May 2007 12:27:52 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-20 <strong>@Wahlau.NET</strong> I agree on HALF of what you've said. They (the snatch thieves) should know the consequences of stealing -- <strong>which is to face the law, by the law and no one else.</strong> Even if the police isn't doing enough, that doesn't give ANYONE the rights to take matters into their own hands. Again, NO ONE has the rights "to teach him a lesson". At that moment, tension will be high. Therefore, I *can* excuse "a few punches" but for this case I'm sure the deceased must have been repeatedly beaten up. My question is, "Does anyone of those who have beaten him up know the consequences of taking matters into their own hands?" To me, they are 2 X 5 (same) with the snatch thief -- breaking the law. <strong>@River of Karma</strong> I agree that crime rates are up. As Gallivanter said, apart from police (possibly) not doing enough, there are other factors that contributes to the spike in crimes. However, your suggestion of, "people publicly beating up crime doer is to send a message to the police force to beef up" is nonsense. If you have a message to send, then speak up. No one should use that as an excuse to vent out anger on the decease or other crime doer. <strong>@ed</strong> It is silly what they did. I'm not sure exactly what happened. It could be repeated beatings like the one in the video, maybe worse, maybe with a stick, I don't know. To be fair to them, it is understandable that tension is high and some beatings will take place but to the extend of killing someone, they must have gone overboard. <strong>@Gallivanter</strong> It's true and we need to get people to understand that no matter what the crime doer did, they must allow the law to do its thing. If they allow themselves to get their hands dirty like the reported case, they must face the law themselves. No excuses. @Wahlau.NET
I agree on HALF of what you’ve said. They (the snatch thieves) should know the consequences of stealing — which is to face the law, by the law and no one else.

Even if the police isn’t doing enough, that doesn’t give ANYONE the rights to take matters into their own hands. Again, NO ONE has the rights “to teach him a lesson”. At that moment, tension will be high. Therefore, I *can* excuse “a few punches” but for this case I’m sure the deceased must have been repeatedly beaten up.

My question is, “Does anyone of those who have beaten him up know the consequences of taking matters into their own hands?” To me, they are 2 X 5 (same) with the snatch thief — breaking the law.

@River of Karma
I agree that crime rates are up. As Gallivanter said, apart from police (possibly) not doing enough, there are other factors that contributes to the spike in crimes.

However, your suggestion of, “people publicly beating up crime doer is to send a message to the police force to beef up” is nonsense. If you have a message to send, then speak up. No one should use that as an excuse to vent out anger on the decease or other crime doer.

@ed
It is silly what they did. I’m not sure exactly what happened. It could be repeated beatings like the one in the video, maybe worse, maybe with a stick, I don’t know. To be fair to them, it is understandable that tension is high and some beatings will take place but to the extend of killing someone, they must have gone overboard.

@Gallivanter
It’s true and we need to get people to understand that no matter what the crime doer did, they must allow the law to do its thing. If they allow themselves to get their hands dirty like the reported case, they must face the law themselves. No excuses.

]]> By: Gallivanter http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-19 Gallivanter Wed, 23 May 2007 05:47:20 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-19 Yes, it doesn't give one the right to take the live of another, even though the person's guilty. The crime rate is up is because of many socio economical factors and not just because there's not enough cops patrolling the streets. What rubbish! The public mustn't take the law into their own hands. Yes, it doesn’t give one the right to take the live of another, even though the person’s guilty. The crime rate is up is because of many socio economical factors and not just because there’s not enough cops patrolling the streets. What rubbish! The public mustn’t take the law into their own hands.

]]> By: ed http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-18 ed Wed, 23 May 2007 05:05:26 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-18 Agree with you completely. As for whom should be burdened with the murder charge. I would say all of them, unless it could be proven that the final blow that killed the person would have killed the person even if the others did not add their punches and kicks. However, it could also be said that the final blow(that killed the person) might not have been struck if the person who delivered it had not been incited by the reactions of the rest of the mob. In this sense, they are all culpable. Agree with you completely.

As for whom should be burdened with the murder charge. I would say all of them, unless it could be proven that the final blow that killed the person would have killed the person even if the others did not add their punches and kicks. However, it could also be said that the final blow(that killed the person) might not have been struck if the person who delivered it had not been incited by the reactions of the rest of the mob. In this sense, they are all culpable.

]]> By: River of Karma http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-17 River of Karma Wed, 23 May 2007 05:01:41 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-17 I agree with wahlau... no one realises that ppl beating up perpetrators are just a display of public frustration over the fact that forces supposed to control these things are sleeping on the job. seriously, the last 7 years has seen a sharp spike in street crimes... if they did their job...we wouldnt have to resort to this nuff said I agree with wahlau…

no one realises that ppl beating up perpetrators are just a display of public frustration over the fact that forces supposed to control these things are sleeping on the job. seriously, the last 7 years has seen a sharp spike in street crimes…

if they did their job…we wouldnt have to resort to this

nuff said

]]> By: Wahlau.NET http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-16 Wahlau.NET Wed, 23 May 2007 04:40:48 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/05/23/do-not-take-the-law-into-your-own-hands/#comment-16 they should know the consequences when they decide to steal. Police in Malaysia are not doing the job expected by public, if no one give them a scare, it will grow much more. I don't think the intention is to kill, no one wants to do that, But to teach the a lesson. Just like the snatch thief saying that his intention is to rob not kill. Plus, snatch thief have an upper hand, they decide when it happen and how the snatch shall happen. Victim and bystander will never be prepare. they should know the consequences when they decide to steal.

Police in Malaysia are not doing the job expected by public, if no one give them a scare, it will grow much more.

I don’t think the intention is to kill, no one wants to do that, But to teach the a lesson. Just like the snatch thief saying that his intention is to rob not kill.

Plus, snatch thief have an upper hand, they decide when it happen and how the snatch shall happen. Victim and bystander will never be prepare.

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