Comments on: I Am Accused Of Plagiarizing. What To Do? http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/ My personal views on Malaysia and the world around me Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:54:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: I Did Not Plagiarize. Conclusion. | ChanKelwin.com http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-866 I Did Not Plagiarize. Conclusion. | ChanKelwin.com Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:27:57 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-866 [...] This is an update on the post where I was accused of plagiarizing. [...] [...] This is an update on the post where I was accused of plagiarizing. [...]

]]> By: Chan Kelwin http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-865 Chan Kelwin Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:50:33 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-865 <strong>@HORNY ANG MOH</strong> Well, I will need around USD800-900 for a Nikon D40x. So far, I think I am almost half way there. <strong>@lilian</strong> Wahhh...got formula some more. hehe. Anyway, I do notice some people just talk about other things more than the product itself. However, I remember reading one of the company's "new rule" that said the minimum words must be about the product/service itself. So many company I don't even remember which one. *sigh* <strong>@helen_H</strong> I've received your email reply. Thanks. I sent a ticket to them and they have replied. I will write an update on this in another post soon. <strong>@Edrei</strong> Fully agree that quoting an entire post is still plagiarism. That is why I only quoted 37 words out of their 5,100 words terms of service page. And the quote was for reference and I did not include the 37 words into their minimum words requirement. That means I was "not paid" for that 37 words. hehe. @HORNY ANG MOH
Well, I will need around USD800-900 for a Nikon D40x. So far, I think I am almost half way there.

@lilian
Wahhh…got formula some more. hehe. Anyway, I do notice some people just talk about other things more than the product itself. However, I remember reading one of the company’s “new rule” that said the minimum words must be about the product/service itself. So many company I don’t even remember which one. *sigh*

@helen_H
I’ve received your email reply. Thanks. I sent a ticket to them and they have replied. I will write an update on this in another post soon.

@Edrei
Fully agree that quoting an entire post is still plagiarism. That is why I only quoted 37 words out of their 5,100 words terms of service page. And the quote was for reference and I did not include the 37 words into their minimum words requirement. That means I was “not paid” for that 37 words. hehe.

]]> By: Edrei http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-860 Edrei Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:49:03 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-860 Think about it this way, someone copies your entire post and then credits you. Is that plagiarism? Yes it is. This is why as a rule of the thumb, quotes taken from another site has got to be left to within a couple a sentences with the bulk of it constituting your own dissection and opinions. It's not a grey area when you're supposed to be paid for YOUR words. You know no one really bothers with original work anymore when no one really knows that it's about already. Think about it this way, someone copies your entire post and then credits you. Is that plagiarism? Yes it is.

This is why as a rule of the thumb, quotes taken from another site has got to be left to within a couple a sentences with the bulk of it constituting your own dissection and opinions. It’s not a grey area when you’re supposed to be paid for YOUR words.

You know no one really bothers with original work anymore when no one really knows that it’s about already.

]]> By: helen_H http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-859 helen_H Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:25:29 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-859 I'm so sorry to hear this. I did a sponsored post sometime back regarding a plagiarism service and I believed even the motion or idea though in different words are similar, it's still plagiarism. BUt then like you say, it's a gray area. Unless it's a personal post (a post that speaks about your personal experiences, rants etc), writing about a product or service will inevitably land you with people sharing similar views. That's plagiarism too? I dunno... Do you mind providing a link to your said post? Maybe we can learn a thing or two.. Dang, it is scary. I’m so sorry to hear this.

I did a sponsored post sometime back regarding a plagiarism service and I believed even the motion or idea though in different words are similar, it’s still plagiarism. BUt then like you say, it’s a gray area.

Unless it’s a personal post (a post that speaks about your personal experiences, rants etc), writing about a product or service will inevitably land you with people sharing similar views. That’s plagiarism too? I dunno…

Do you mind providing a link to your said post? Maybe we can learn a thing or two..

Dang, it is scary.

]]> By: lilian http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-858 lilian Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:23:50 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-858 LOL, I crap 75% shits and 10% intro and 10% fact plus 5% this is a sponsored post. So never have this problem, not even after 1,200 opps. LOL, I crap 75% shits and 10% intro and 10% fact plus 5% this is a sponsored post. So never have this problem, not even after 1,200 opps.

]]> By: HORNY ANG MOH http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-857 HORNY ANG MOH Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:13:49 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-857 I see u got so many sponsor post! Meet ur $$$$ for camera yet??? So far I only got two post only & I 'twisted' it with hor ny fact so no problem here but I get no more 'topic' to write due to my 'hor ny' nature! There go my dream of earning $$$$!!!Have a nice day! I see u got so many sponsor post! Meet ur $$$$ for camera yet??? So far I only got two post only & I ‘twisted’ it with hor ny fact so no problem here but I get no more ‘topic’ to write due to my ‘hor ny’ nature! There go my dream of earning $$$$!!!Have a nice day!

]]> By: Chan Kelwin http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-856 Chan Kelwin Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:46:49 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-856 <strong>@mooiness</strong> I agree with your points regarding Q1 and Q3. Just to make it clear that I did not quote an entire post. Their TOS has over 5,000 words and I only quoted 30+ words of it. Like I said, I quoted it as a reference. As for the rest of the content, it was "free style" without guides. I just wrote whatever I felt about the current situation after experiencing a few things. On Q2, I will keep that in mind. I am still waiting for their reply. Thanks for helping out again. <strong>@aw</strong> It's quite tricky sometimes. Some companies want you to be talking about the product/service for at least the amount of words they required, while others do not bother. I research for facts/information before writing all the time. So far, no problem with that. In fact, the post I was talking about was written spontaneously. I write what came into my mind. Therefore, if what I wrote is an <strong>exact copy</strong> of another blogger's writing, it's like hitting a multi million jackpot. @mooiness
I agree with your points regarding Q1 and Q3. Just to make it clear that I did not quote an entire post. Their TOS has over 5,000 words and I only quoted 30+ words of it. Like I said, I quoted it as a reference. As for the rest of the content, it was “free style” without guides. I just wrote whatever I felt about the current situation after experiencing a few things.

On Q2, I will keep that in mind. I am still waiting for their reply. Thanks for helping out again.

@aw
It’s quite tricky sometimes. Some companies want you to be talking about the product/service for at least the amount of words they required, while others do not bother. I research for facts/information before writing all the time. So far, no problem with that. In fact, the post I was talking about was written spontaneously. I write what came into my mind. Therefore, if what I wrote is an exact copy of another blogger’s writing, it’s like hitting a multi million jackpot.

]]> By: aw http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-855 aw Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:12:13 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-855 Dude, the identify plagiarism by software. So it's very mechanical. Next time just write a sponsored post entirely with your own words. Just ramble a bit. Forget about doing research. If you wanted to do a post that is informative to your readers, just write another post. Dude, the identify plagiarism by software. So it’s very mechanical.

Next time just write a sponsored post entirely with your own words. Just ramble a bit. Forget about doing research.

If you wanted to do a post that is informative to your readers, just write another post.

]]> By: mooiness http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-854 mooiness Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:09:33 +0000 http://www.chankelwin.com/2007/09/18/i-am-accused-of-plagiarizing-what-to-do/#comment-854 I will deal with ques. 1 & 3 together. Even if you've given credit, quoting an entire post within yours is considered bad form. Plagiarism also does not have to be about using the same words. If you express the same idea with different words BUT in the same structure and approach, that is plagiarism too. Doing posts for PPP you will come across this sooner or later because you have to follow the requirements they set for you which doesn't give you much room to move. That said, the warning that they give you is probably generic. I don't think you copy and pasted an entire post. You probably just had a very similar structure to another postie's post. So wait till you hear back from them lah. About ques. 2, you can't really. But if you read another post which inspired your current post you should acknowledge it. You can do the same by updating your post, if you find out later that what you've written is very similar to what someone else had already written. It's good blog karma. I will deal with ques. 1 & 3 together. Even if you’ve given credit, quoting an entire post within yours is considered bad form. Plagiarism also does not have to be about using the same words. If you express the same idea with different words BUT in the same structure and approach, that is plagiarism too.

Doing posts for PPP you will come across this sooner or later because you have to follow the requirements they set for you which doesn’t give you much room to move.

That said, the warning that they give you is probably generic. I don’t think you copy and pasted an entire post. You probably just had a very similar structure to another postie’s post. So wait till you hear back from them lah.

About ques. 2, you can’t really. But if you read another post which inspired your current post you should acknowledge it. You can do the same by updating your post, if you find out later that what you’ve written is very similar to what someone else had already written. It’s good blog karma.

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